Legislature(2005 - 2006)BELTZ 211
03/16/2006 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE
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| SB300 | |
| Adjourn |
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| + | SB 273 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | SB 300 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 272 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 307 | TELECONFERENCED | |
ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE
March 16, 2006
1:34 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Senator Con Bunde, Chair
Senator Ralph Seekins, Vice Chair
Senator Ben Stevens
Senator Johnny Ellis
Senator Bettye Davis
MEMBERS ABSENT
All members present
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
SENATE BILL NO. 272
"An Act relating to mortgage lenders and persons who engage in
activities relating to mortgage lending; and providing for an
effective date."
SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD
SENATE BILL NO. 307
"An Act relating to a fee provided for in the rental agreement
for late payment of rent under the Uniform Residential Landlord
and Tenant Act."
SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD
SENATE BILL NO. 273
"An Act relating to a motor vehicle dealer's selling or offering
to sell motor vehicles as new or current models or as new or
current model motor vehicles having manufacturer's warranties."
MOVED SB 273 OUT OF COMMITTEE
SENATE BILL NO. 300
"An Act relating to the handling of negative equity in motor
vehicle transactions."
HEARD AND HELD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: SB 273
SHORT TITLE: MOTOR VEHICLE SALES
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) COWDERY
02/08/06 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/08/06 (S) TRA, L&C
02/23/06 (H) TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17
02/23/06 (H) -- Meeting Canceled --
03/02/06 (S) TRA AT 2:00 PM FAHRENKAMP 203
03/02/06 (S) Moved SB 273 Out of Committee
03/02/06 (S) MINUTE(TRA)
03/03/06 (S) TRA RPT 4DP
03/03/06 (S) DP: HUGGINS, THERRIAULT, COWDERY,
KOOKESH
03/16/06 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211
BILL: SB 300
SHORT TITLE: MOTOR VEHICLE NEGATIVE EQUITY
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) SEEKINS
02/14/06 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/14/06 (S) TRA, L&C
02/23/06 (H) TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17
02/23/06 (H) -- Meeting Canceled --
03/09/06 (S) TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
03/09/06 (S) Moved SB 300 Out of Committee
03/09/06 (S) MINUTE(TRA)
03/10/06 (S) TRA RPT 2DP 1NR
03/10/06 (S) DP: HUGGINS, KOOKESH
03/10/06 (S) NR: FRENCH
03/16/06 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211
WITNESS REGISTER
RYAN MAKINSTER
Staff to Senator Cowdery
State Capital
Juneau AK
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 273 for the sponsor.
ED SNIFFEN, Assistant Attorney General
Division of Consumer Protection
Department of Law
PO Box 110300
Juneau, AK 99811-0300
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 273 and SB 300.
JOHN COOK, Legislative Director
Alaska Auto Dealers' Association
Aurora Motors
Fairbanks AK
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 273.
BRIAN HOVE
Staff to Senator Seekins
State Capitol
Juneau AK
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 300 for the sponsor.
ACTION NARRATIVE
CHAIR CON BUNDE called the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing
Committee meeting to order at 1:34:57 PM. Present at the call to
order were Senators Bettye Davis, Johnny Ellis, Ben Stevens and
Chair Con Bunde. The chair announced that SB 272 and SB 307 were
postponed.
1:36:13 PM
SENATOR SEEKINS arrived.
SB 273-MOTOR VEHICLE SALES
CHAIR BUNDE announced SB 273 to be up for consideration.
RYAN MAKINSTER, staff to Senator Cowdery, sponsor of SB 273,
explained that SB 273 addresses unintended consequences from a
bill that was passed last year that prohibited new and used car
dealers from selling new cars, but it went farther than that by
prohibiting both groups from selling current-model used cars. A
current-model used car could also fall in the current model
year. Subsequently if the law was followed, a new or used car
dealer would have to hold a returned car that has the current
model year on their lot until it wasn't a current model any
more. This does disservice to the dealers because they will have
to hold a car that is losing value and a disservice to the
consumer, because he doesn't get as broad a choice to pick from.
Secondarily, if he is a serviceman and gets shipped overseas and
has to return a leased car, it would be difficult to turn it
into a dealer knowing that the dealer has to hold it on his lot
until it is not a current model.
He said this law is basically being overlooked and this bill
changes languages so that current-model vehicles could be sold
by used and new car dealers. He said the Used Car Dealers
Association supported it.
1:40:23 PM
ED SNIFFEN, Consumer Protection, Department of Law (DOL), said
he has a large responsibility for regulating the care dealers in
Alaska. He has been working on this issue for several years and
the industry supports it. "It's something we need to do to allow
us to enforce our laws - so we can sell these current-model used
vehicles to consumers."
CHAIR BUNDE asked if he was comfortable with the bill from a
consumer's point of view.
MR. SNIFFEN replied yes.
JOHN COOK, Used Car Dealers Association, supported SB 273 and
the previous testimony. He thanked everyone who worked on it for
over a year.
1:44:32 PM
SENATOR RALPH SEEKINS said this addresses part of his concerns,
but it does not address dealers who commit black market fraud.
However, he stated he supported the bill.
CHAIR BUNDE closed the public hearing.
SENATOR ELLIS moved to pass SB 273 from committee with
individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.
Senators Davis, Ben Stevens, Seekins, Ellis and Chair Bunde
voted yea; and SB 273 moved from committee.
SB 300-MOTOR VEHICLE NEGATIVE EQUITY
CHAIR BUNDE announced SB 300 to be up for consideration.
BRIAN HOVE, staff to Senator Seekins, sponsor of SB 300, said it
updates the definition of "principal balance" found in the
Alaska retail installment sales contract to accommodate the
proper disclosure of negative equity. It clarifies how an
incident of negative equity is handled within a lease
arrangement and a contract.
He explained that previously, lending institutions required
borrowers to participate financially in purchase transactions.
Down payments of 25 percent were quite common and term loans
were held for 36 months. But these guidelines have gone by the
wayside. Consumers have demanded lower payment loans with
greater value. Now no and low down payment options are offered
and the payment period has been lengthened. This phenomenon is
particularly evident in retail auto sales where qualified buyers
often opt for 100 percent financing over the longest possible
term.
The mathematical effect of this strategy is simple.
The point in time at which the vehicle's market value
exceeds the outstanding balance on the underlying loan
occurs much later than it otherwise would. Until this
point is reached, the owner's equity position is
commonly known as upside down or negative. In other
words, the value of the vehicle is not yet sufficient
to completely repay the outstanding balance on the
loan.
As a result, when the owner wants to trade for a
different vehicle, the dealer has to figure out some
way to accommodate the loan payoff in the trade-in. At
one time it was common practice in some states to
simply inflate the price of the car to be purchased
enough to permit an allowance for the trade-in that
would cover the amount owed. The negative equity
disappears. This method solved the equity problem, but
failed to adequately describe the transaction
mathematically. So, over time this practice fell into
disfavor and today it is more common that new vehicles
are sold at non-negotiable prices - such as factory
incentive programs.
Furthermore, the Federal Reserve Board provided
guidance on this issue through revisions made to
Regulations M and Z. These regs control the manner in
which lease and credit transactions respectively are
disclosed. Regulation M was revised to provide a
dedicated disclosure line on the lease agreement in
cases where a prior loan or lease balance - negative
equity - is rolled into the new lease transaction.
Revisions made to reg Z altered the definition of
"down payment" thereby solving the negative equity
issue as it pertains to a loan transaction.
MR. HOVE said that the vast majority of banks and credit unions
are federally regulated. He continued to explain:
Therefore they follow federal disclosure laws. State
laws do not come into play. However, acceptance
companies, like GMAC, Ford Motor Credit and others are
required to follow both state and federal laws. The
dual adherence requirement has effectively created a
disparity in the manner in which loan and lease
transactions are disclosed in cases involving negative
equity here in Alaska. So, the bottom line is that
while federal law has been revised to accommodate this
situation, our state law has not. SB 300 resolves this
disparity by updating the definition of "principal
balance" as it pertains to the state's disclosure
requirements for retail sales contracts found in
Chapter 10, Title 45. Furthermore the bill adds
corresponding language to Chapter 25 pertaining to the
handling of negative equity with respect to lease
agreements. These modifications bring state and
federal law back into alignment.
CHAIR BUNDE asked if this language is based on federal
regulations.
MR. HOVE replied that the banks, credit unions and acceptance
companies are the typical financial options - for purchasing new
vehicles, for instance. Banks and credit unions are required to
follow federal law. Acceptance companies like GMAC and Fort
Motor Credit and other are required to follow not only federal,
but also state, law. The feds have accommodated this situation
through Regulations M and Z for the banks and credit unions. The
acceptance companies have not been accommodated. This is what SB
300 does.
SENATOR SEEKINS expanded that the state's law has a grey area as
to whether or not disclosures that are required under federal
law meet our own statutes. SB 300 brings state law into
alignment with federal law for acceptance companies.
1:52:36 PM
CHAIR BUNDE asked how the process would work.
SENATOR SEEKINS explained with an example of a person who wants
to trade in his car and owes more than it's worth - a situation
that is called upside down. It's not an uncommon occurrence.
CHAIR BUNDE asked how he would start his new loan.
SENATOR SEEKINS explained that it is included on the financing
on the new vehicle. The credit decision is made based on the
customer's ability to pay, not necessarily the purchase price of
the car they are buying. If this is done, it has to be fully
disclosed in the deal.
CHAIR BUNDE asked if a vehicle was, in fact, being financed
twice.
SENATOR SEEKINS replied, "In effect - part of it, yes they do."
CHAIR BUNDE asked if the full costs have to be disclosed as with
consumer loans.
SENATOR SEEKINS replied, "Yes, absolutely."
1:58:26 PM
SENATOR SEEKINS said that finance companies really frown on
inflating the purchase price of a vehicle (MSRP) to cover what
is still owing on the trade-in.
1:58:54 PM
ED SNIFFEN, Assistant Attorney General, Division of Consumer
Protection, Department of Law (DOL), said he views this as a
consumer protection issue in terms of a consumer knowing how
much money it is costing him to borrow money to finance these
transactions.
Currently, he explained, two things happen. One is the dealer
loans money to pay off the car and that transaction separately
requires all kinds of disclosures under the Regulation V, the
federal Truth In Lending Act. If a dealer wants to sell that
customer another vehicle and loan him money to do that, he makes
him a second loan. The disclosures for that may be under the
state's Retail Installment Sales Act, the Consumer Leasing Act
or the Truth In Lending Act, depending on how the financing
happened. This bill allows the dealerships to follow the federal
model, which says you can take the first loan and wrap it into
the loan for the new vehicle and do one disclosure that explains
the finance charge, cost of credit, etc. This language is
consistent with federal law; it won't have any adverse impacts
on consumers.
CHAIR BUNDE quipped that there is no regulation to put on the
forms saying that a fool and their money are soon parted.
2:01:45 PM
SENATOR SEEKINS said someone suggested a modification saying
that AS 45.10.030 needs a clarification to make its language
consistent with this bill. That statute says the retail
installment contract must contain the names of the seller, the
buyer, etc. etc. It also must contain the following items - and
it was suggested to add any other charges including: "the
amount, if any, that the seller agrees to pay to discharge an
outstanding obligation of the buyer on an existing motor vehicle
agreement loan installment or sales contract or lease." That
would be compatible with the intent of SB 300.
CHAIR BUNDE said he would hold bill for the amendment to be
added to a CS. He thought that would be easier for the
committee.
SENATOR SEEKINS agreed.
There being no further business to come before the committee, he
adjourned the meeting at 2:06:01 PM.
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